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Error "Someone else is working in FILE_A right now. Please try again later" after use of Power Query

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(@anke)
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Hello everyone, since a couple of weeks I am having trouble with the following:

Our master file (File_A) contains our base data, as well as VBA macros. 
File_A is open.

Scenario 1:
One File_A macro opens File_B and then updates a Power Query of File_B (querying File_A data).
The File_A macro then saves and closes File_B.

Scenario 2:
A File_C is open as well; File_C contains VBA macros.
One File_C macro opens File_D and updates a Power Query of File_D (querying File_A data).
The File_C macro then saves and closes File_D.

My problem for both scenarios:
After a PQ update, no matter if triggered by a macro from within File_A, or triggered by a macro from the external File_C, it is impossible to save File_A -> I get the error message "Someone else is working in File_A right now. Please try again later".

This has only appeared recently (maybe 4 weeks ago?), it worked fine before.
We are using Microsoft 365.
File A is stored on a shared drive (however it is not a shared file).
File B, C and D are stored in repositories on SharePoint.

Any idea for the cause and what to fix here?
Thanks a lot!

 
Posted : 05/10/2022 10:27 am
(@catalinb)
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Hi Anke,

If file A is open, querying File_A data from another file will return a query error. Maybe you can change the code to save a copy of the File A and query the copy instead.

Can you upload a sample query?

 
Posted : 19/10/2022 2:50 am
(@anke)
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Thank you Catalin.

 

Where could I find specification / description of this behaviour (file A is open, querying File_A data from another file will return a query error)?

Is it possible to catch this error in VBA? 

 

What I find strange is that I had no problem with the setup of scenario 1 and 2 until recently.

 

Thanks again, Anke

 
Posted : 03/11/2022 8:53 am
(@catalinb)
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Hi Anke,

When you query file A, if it is open, the query will fail. 

There are 2 ways to avoid this: in power query, if a file is open, the query editor will show 2 entries for the same file, one of them will start with the "~" prefix, it's a temporary hidden file. Filter the Name column to exclude files that begins with "~" symbol. This works only if file A is on a normal folder, not OneDrive/Sharepoint folder. (on these folders, excel creates a different type of hidden temporary copy, with .tmp extension)

The second way is to write code to copy File A into a different location, point the queries to the copy instead of the original file.

You can catch errors in a query:

On Error Resume Next

tbl.QueryTable.Refresh

If Err.Number <> 0 then ' Query failed, you can read Err.Description to see the reason

 
Posted : 05/11/2022 7:53 am
(@anke)
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Thanks Catalin.

I am not querying a folder, but file A, so the temporary "~"file should not be the issue?

My query in file B is updating without error; however, when trying to save file A after the successful query, file A is displaying the error "Someone else is working in file A right now...". If I close file A and leave file B open on my computer, and then my colleague opens file A on her computer (in my first post I had mentioned it is a file on a shared drive) they can still not save it. Only after I have closed all Excel files on my computer, file A will not throw the error anymore.

File A is our database that is manually updated (and therefore opened) multiple times during the day. We have a couple of Power Queries connected to file A. It would have been great to query file A directly; to create a copy seems counterintuitive, but maybe it's the way to go.

 
Posted : 16/11/2022 11:23 am
(@catalinb)
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I am not querying a folder, but file A, so the temporary "~"file should not be the issue?

Instead of querying file a directly, start a query from folder. The query will list all the files in that folder, apply a filter to identify file A. Apply another filter to remove the temp copy starting with ~. Note that the query will get the changes only after you save file A.

 
Posted : 16/11/2022 4:03 pm
Anders Sehlstedt
(@sehlsan)
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Hello,

If you don’t already have, do a file copy of file A as a backup just in case.

Open file A and save a new copy using Save As. Rename file A and then rename the copy so it gets the same name as file A had. Does the error message still pop up?

Br,
Anders

 
Posted : 16/11/2022 7:08 pm
(@anke)
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Hello Anders,

thank you for your reply. Yes, we had done that however it did not resolve the issue.

 
Posted : 01/12/2022 9:12 am
(@anke)
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Thank you Catalin, I opted for starting the queries from a folder. I replicated my queries and with that linked my pivot tables to the new data source; this seems to do the trick. All testing was successful, it will go life next week. Thank you for your help.

 
Posted : 01/12/2022 9:21 am
(@cagnam)
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There are 2 ways to avoid this: in power query, if a file is open, the query editor will show 2 entries for the same file, one of them will start with the "~" prefix, it's a temporary hidden file. Filter the Name column to exclude files that begins with "~" symbol. This works only if file A is on a normal folder, not OneDrive/Sharepoint folder. (on these folders, excel creates a different type of hidden temporary copy, with .tmp extension)

 

Re:Above -- How do you filter out the .tmp files.

I can filter "~" ok

but cannot see the .tmp files when i link to onedrive.

 

Thanks

Cagnam

 
Posted : 03/12/2022 2:03 pm
(@catalinb)
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As said, filtering out temp file works only outside OneDrive.

 
Posted : 04/12/2022 4:19 am
(@cagnam)
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Thanks..

I was trying to find a way to refresh a query, where the source excel file is open and resides on OneDrive.

I could not find a solution..so is it safe to say... Files on OneDrive must be closed in order to refresh the query.

 
Posted : 04/12/2022 2:27 pm
(@catalinb)
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Worth to mention something about OneDrive:

OneDrive is not just on your local computer, those files are in cloud as well.

While you cannot refresh a query to a local file from OneDrive folder, you can still connect to the cloud version with no restriction.

https://www.myonlinetraininghub.com/get-data-from-onedrive-or-sharepoint-with-power-query

 

If you have a personal account, not OneDrive Business, and the above link does not work, try:

Get from onedrive cloud the share link, but you need to apply a trick:

Initially, the onedrive link looks like:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!AuMAcqo4 [...]

You have to use it in a browser to open the file, the link will change to something like this:

https://onedrive.live.com/ view.aspx?resid=E1C2D[...]3!457&ithint=file%2cxlsx&authkey=!AH9[...]

The final step is to change from view to download:

https://onedrive.live.com/ download.aspx?resid=E1C2D[...]3!457&ithint=file%2cxlsx&authkey=!AH9[...]

This final link can be used in a Query from Web

 
Posted : 05/12/2022 2:23 am
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